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Dancing With the Devil: Should Milonguero be Performed?

by Ivica Anteski · February 28, 2024

Before I answer the question of whether tango milonguero belongs on stage, you should understand exactly what I mean when I refer to stage and milonguero. Those of you who have read my article on “Why I Dance Milonguero” already know that I agree with dancers who believe there are only two styles of tango:

  1. Social tango, also known as tango salon or milonguero.
  2. Stage tango or escenario, which includes nuevo.

The difference, as I see it, lies in the intention: social tango is when dancers focus on their partners, while stage tango is when performers dance for the fancy moves and for the audience.

I strongly believe that stage tango doesn’t belong in milongas, and those who attempt to perform within the ronda should be politely asked to leave. Any decent organizer should do that!


On the other hand, should and can social dancing (milonguero) be performed?

Here is what Christos asked in the comments section of one of my articles:

“The way you describe it… milonguero seems somehow unattractive for a performance, since (as you point out) people dance it for themselves and not an audience and they don’t care much about how it looks. (BTW… I totally agree with that… The beauty of milonguero style is not easily seen from the outside… But it can be felt from the couple).

So do you think that more performances of such style could help in some way? Or do you think that performances in milonguero style go against the idea of dancing for yourself and not an audience? Could you somehow marry them?”

I completely agree with him and I asked myself this question as well many times. I will try to share my thoughts in this article.


Why should anyone perform Milonguero?

We should all be thankful to stage dancers and performers for popularizing tango and attracting people into the tango world. That said, we should also be aware of the kind of people they attract and the negative influence they have on how tango is danced at milongas.

People often form their initial impressions of tango from clichéd performers or Hollywood depictions, leading them to believe that tango requires physical abilities and special acrobatic talents. They then attend festivals where milongas are interrupted for show dancing, or simply watch videos of such performances.

Their mindset is that tango should be danced that way in milongas as well, so they pay for classes to learn to walk with huge steps, dance without subtle connection, and then add boleos, volcadas, ganchos, etc. They often fish for attention or amazement of their abilities or creativity… This idea of tango often attracts exhibitionists and is sometimes repellent to people with sensitivity.

I strongly believe that performances attract people to tango, yes, but they often attract the wrong people. The idea they convey creates an environment where often the most prominent and influential members are those who are the biggest exhibitionists and those with less sensitivity and respect for others on the dance floor.

Saying this, many unfortunately try to dance this way in milonga settings without actually being aware that it doesn’t belong there… Because many of them have never seen or considered a different way: the way of milongueros.

I can say this from my own experience: I struggled a lot and I even wanted to give up, since showing off on the dance floor felt fake and repulsive. But then I discovered the world of milonguero dancing and for me everything fell into place.

Learning was impossible without watching videos of milongueros dancing at milongas and… performing.

Oh, how grateful I am that they did and that now, when most of them are gone, we have preserved so much richness and authenticity.

So, yes, performing milonguero has huge benefits! I like watching it and I think all tangueros should watch milonguero performances rather than show dancing at festivals.


Unseen Benefits, Unheard Messages

If performing milonguero can improve the perception of tango, then why is the possibility of performing milonguero even a question, you may ask? The short answer is because it’s not made for an audience.

The most obvious upside of dancing milonguero for me is the emotional depth and possibility to connect with a person in an authentic way. We’re all aware that we live in a stressful world where we’re often feeling threatened by other people. That makes many of us closed down and depressed. Most of the time we keep people at a distance, and on the rare occasions we interact, we rarely do it in an intimate way.

No wonder, the word intimacy often evokes sexual context – although I have to say, we even succeeded in decoupling sex from intimacy.


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If I see the main benefits of dancing milonguero in authentic emotional connection with the partner, then the question is how it’s possible to showcase this abstract point? How can people watching see what dancers feel? How can dancers show what they feel?

Well, they can’t! I believe it’s one of those things that you must experience to understand.

Is it possible, then, to make people understand these benefits? Yes, but performing milonguero is just a small part of it.

I think that the most important thing is for teachers to make new dancers aware of this. Since they’re all beginners, they will have no way to understand at first, but it’s enough for them to be aware – so when they feel it, they will understand what it is.


Bargaining with the devil

When you dance for an audience, your dancing is not the same anymore. I noticed in my dancing at least that when I feel attention I grab steps and moves from the top shelf, I sometimes, I’m ashamed to say, even feel that I forget that I’m dancing with a partner.

And, it’s not just me – old milongueros used to say that when you dance for show, your tango angel dies. I wrote about it in this article:

Killing the Angel

Despite all this, I guess when you want to achieve the benefits I mentioned above, we sometimes have to “kill some angels”. It’s quite a delicate balance, but I believe it’s worth to make a deal with the devil in this case.

I am sure he will outsmart us and we will end up on the losing side, but the benefits are too important to neglect them. People need to see and be reminded of what’s possible.


The idea of performing milonguero may seem paradoxical, but it’s an opportunity to attract to tango people who value sensitivity and connection, people who prefer subtlety above exhibitionism.

The question about integrity versus a broader visibility has a simple answer: you bargain with the devil and hope you can repair the damage to your dancing later on.

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Defining Tango Milonguero Is Harder Than You Think

by Ivica Anteski · February 21, 2024

Is there a clear definition of what tango milonguero is? And, if there is, can that explain what makes it different from other ways of dancing tango?

When I published my article about why I dance milonguero, it became quite obvious that the idea of “tango milonguero” means different things to different people. I was aware from my previous interactions with fellow milongueros that it’s like a cloud of shapeless meaning without clear boundaries.

In his reflections about the nature of time, St. Augustine said, “If no one asks me, I know what it is. If I wish to explain it to him who asks, I do not know,” and I think it perfectly matches what I’m talking about.

“Ivica, it’s simple: tango milonguero is the style of the old milongueros from the Golden Age,” one may say.

This is true, but it’s not a definition. Merely stating that the old milongueros danced tango milonguero does not provide a clear explanation of what defines ‘tango milonguero.’ The questions ‘How did they dance? What did they do differently?’ still remain unanswered.

Milonguero is tango meant to be danced (and first developed) at milongas of the Golden Age. Enthusiasts continue to refine this tradition to this day.

Given its origin in milongas, I believe it must meet certain requirements:

  • It must accommodate crowded dance floors (showing respect for other dancers).
  • It must facilitate elegance and a strong connection with one’s partner.
  • It must express the music effectively

So, based on these requirements, using all my knowledge and experience, I came up with these points which I think are the closest definition of tango milonguero.


Milonguero Musicality

If you ask me to point out just one single thing that differentiates tango milonguero, it’s the musicality. As I pointed out in my article about the myths surrounding milonguero, there are many things that milongueros do that make them quite different from each other. In that, it’s hard to find what makes their dancing similar? What is it that you can still say they have in common?

Watching them dance and analyzing what they do, I think the most important thing that connects them all is the way they listen to and interpret the music.

If you see a show dancer or performer, they will most of the time find an audible pattern in the music and express it with their movements. That includes things like musical bridges, passages, musical phrases, or distinctive ideas, something that a general audience or even non-dancers can notice without delving deeper.

That is usually the part of the music that touches the ear, the sounds!

Here is a short example of what I mean:

On the other hand, milonguero dancers focus on the deeper structures. They exist, but they are not always audible. The best way for me to describe them is as the abstract mathematical structure behind the music.

Let me illustrate this with a violinist: while he plays a melody, his feet will tap the rhythm like a metronome. The listener will not hear the tapping, but it exists as an abstract structure that holds the melody regular.

It’s this regular pattern that I notice first when I see a milonguero dancing – or better, it’s focusing on the surface of the music that I notice in stage performances.

The mathematical structure of the music is regular and predictable. This means that dancers who follow it are moving in a smooth and predictable way. One doesn’t need choreographed movements to dance musically, so it can be improvised in an elegant way, focusing on the connection, and not the steps.


Maturity and Social Intelligence

I strongly believe that having perfect technique or a bad-ass repertoire of steps is not the primary prerequisite to dance social tango. It’s good to be good, of course, but it’s more important to have some emotional maturity and social intelligence. One must dance with respect and wisdom, not trying to prove anything to others.

Tango exposes people’s flaws and gives them a great platform to work on them and become better versions of themselves.

Trying to show off, to compete with others, disrespecting the context… it all comes from insecurities and ego, which are the main roadblocks to becoming better dancers (or even better people).

A social tango dancer enters the ronda and is not a separate entity anymore. First, they become a dancing couple, they become one, in other words “one animal with four legs and two beating hearts”. Second, and that is more important here, they become a part of the ronda, together with all the couples that dance on the dance floor.

When couples communicate with other couples, the ronda suddenly becomes a living creature, a network of units that move in unison, taking care of others and trying to distribute the equal amount of space available to every unit.

All of that becomes obvious when one understands how much emotional maturity and social intelligence helps a social dancer to connect with their partner and other fellow dancers on the dance floor.


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Repertoire that perfectly fits with Tango Music

Many people may not fully understand why social tango is traditionally danced to music from the Golden Age.

In my view, social tango (milonguero) is tightly integrated with tango music. It’s not simply about executing steps to match the rhythm and melody; rather, there’s a rich history of integration between the dance and the music. Questionably, performing social tango steps to any music may not truly be considered dancing tango at all.

Why do I say this?

During the Golden Age, dancers and musicians shared the same space, creating an intimate connection. This wasn’t just about physical proximity; it was about mutual influence and shared emotion. Musicians could observe how their music was interpreted by dancers, and dancers could absorb the sentiment of the music, expressing it through their movements. The symbiosis between music and dance was real – they were inseparable. Separating them creates an undeniable void; without this connection, I’m not sure I see it as social tango.

But why not innovate?

Yes, it’s possible – but new music requires a new approach to both music and movement. All of that seems to me like some new dance – it’s not tango anymore.

Dancing milonguero to music from the Golden Age isn’t about difficulty or showcasing talent; it’s about effortless elegance and deep connection. The music serves as a guide, enabling dancers to express their musicality and connect deeply with their partner. Ultimately, it’s this connection that truly matters.


Personality of the Dancer

Social tango isn’t a standardized dance; there’s no wrong way of doing it. If it works for you and your partner, and as long as it doesn’t disrupt others on the dance floor, it’s good. My personal preference aside, what truly matters is whether other partners enjoy dancing with you.

It’s an evolutionary process – successful approaches endure while ineffective ones fade away.I completely agree with Rick when he says that social tango evolved and stage tango was intelligent design:

“Stage tango is the result of conscious planning. It’s made up mostly of figures and steps that were intentionally designed by people for the purpose of entertaining other people. Social tango, on the other hand, is the result of natural selection. Like organisms that exist in the natural world, social tango has been shaped and polished over the years by the conditions that surround it. Social tango was shaped by the environment of the milonga, and you can’t separate them. Social tango and the milonga are meaningless without each other.”

Tango and Chaos in Buenos Aires

I don’t know if it’s just me, but when I see performers and stage dancers they all look alike to me. There’s something that makes them similar… the way they keep their posture… the way they walk… the way they interpret the music… In my perception, it all leads to one standard, one “right way” of dancing.

On the other hand, when I see milongueros, I can see imperfections which give their dancing a personal touch. It’s like when I tell my friends I like those little imperfect houses in the old part of Porto more than huge white stone buildings in Vienna. I like both Porto and Vienna, but there’s something warm, human, personal, comforting in the imperfection – and there’s something cold, inhuman, distant, official, and formal in perfection. As one of my college professors used to say – perfection is totalitarian!

No wonder, there are millions of music aficionados around the world who prefer to listen to music from old vinyl records, not despite the imperfections of the noises they produce, but because of it. Imperfections and personality are what make tango rich, and insisting on perfection and standardization is what reduces it.


Tango Milonguero is defined by its connection with music, movement, and social interaction. I think that rigid definitions are impossible, but if you’re able to recognize those key features, it’s clear.

Old milongueros used to say that the best compliment a dancer can get is that they dance elegantly. Although it’s not a clear definition, it pretty much grasps what milonguero is – elegance could be found more in the simplicity, in ease and in the character, rather than in the appearance.

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Myths about Tango Milonguero: Shedding Light on Common Misconceptions

by Ivica Anteski · February 14, 2024

People have misconceptions about tango milonguero not because they don’t know how to dance milonguero, but because they don’t learn about its background, the culture, the history… or, they just don’t care. It’s their choice, but I think they miss a great opportunity because knowing helps you do it better.

To be honest, I have no idea how people get their ideas about what tango milonguero is and what it is not. I just know that I did it by reading and watching, mostly because I tried to understand the mindset of milongueros from the Golden Age – because to this day I strongly believe that good dancing starts in your head.

As we all know, social tango luckily is not a standardized dance, so there is no one ultimate prototype or a definition. I often tell my students that what they learn are guidelines, not strict rules. So the purpose of this article is to just share my observations, based on the level of my understanding and experience.

It started as an article about the definition of what tango milonguero is. It was more difficult than I thought it would be, so I first focused on what is not “tango milonguero”. Then the article got so long that I had to split the topic into two pieces. Consider this as the first part – the second one is coming soon.

So what is not tango milonguero? What are the myths that people believe about tango milonguero?


Myth 1: “Milonguero is when you dance in close embrace”

In the last couple of years, after COVID, I visited a couple of events branded as “milonguero” and advertised as events “for close embrace lovers”. It’s nothing new, and you can see it all around the world. However, I also visited non-milonguero events (marathons and festivals) with the vast majority of “close embrace” dancers. Does that mean those were also milonguero events and those dancers are milongueros? I don’t think so.

There are milongueros from the Golden Age who dance in open position, or who sometimes during the dance open to perform certain movements. And somehow, I can still say that’s milonguero.

In this video, “El Chino” maintains the embrace almost all the time, but around the 1 minute and 22-second mark, he opens and begins executing some complicated steps. Nevertheless, you can still classify his dancing as milonguero.

Milonguero can sometimes be danced in an open position.

“Close embrace” and “milonguero” dancing are not the same thing. Milonguero is often danced in embrace, yes, but not all embrace dancers are dancing milonguero. Some people do not consider themselves milonguero dancers, yet they consistently dance in embrace. They rarely or never open, but their dancing is still not milonguero.

So, that’s not it. The embrace is an important part of dancing milonguero, and I personally dance exclusively in embrace, but one can’t say that it is what defines milonguero.


Myth 2: “Milonguero is for old people only”

Yes, it’s true. I confirm that’s my impression as well – the overall age of people visiting milonguero events is higher than festivals or marathons. Even so, I don’t agree with the conclusion that milonguero is the style of the old people. I’ve met very young people dancing milonguero, and I’ve also met very old people dancing with crazy acrobatics or even nuevo.

For example, Santiago in this video is quite young, but his dancing is still no different from other milongueros who danced in the Golden Age.

On the other hand, I doubt you’ve never seen an older person dancing nuevo or running and kicking around the dance floor like they are on a stage performing.

If it’s not the age, then what is it? In my opinion, it’s maturity! It takes some emotional wisdom and life experience to be able to dance elegantly and respectfully. I also believe it’s about choice and character – a decision to dance without showing off and finding beauty in small things.


Myth 3: “Milonguero is when you’re dancing in apilado”

This happens so often that sometimes “milonguero” and “apilado” are used interchangeably. For those of my readers who don’t know what “apilado” means, it’s when dancers share their axis during the dance and lean on each other.

Not every milonguero I know about dances in apilado. For example, look how Miguel Angel Balbi stays upright all the time during his dance:

On the other hand, Gavito is respected all around the milonguero world, but his apilado dancing is often a performance – an exaggerated version of the subtle leaning that happens during the dance. You can even see apilado in the dance of Carlitos and Noelia, for example – which doesn’t mean that they are dancing milonguero.

Let me be clear. When I dance, I often prefer to use subtle apilado, depending on the music and the partner. Not always, but I appreciate the expression of trust she puts in me, believing that I’ll take care of her axis and movements.

So, apilado is not the defining trait of tango milonguero – it can be just a good supplement.


Myth 4: “Tango milonguero is too simple and too easy”

Is that so? Just wait until you see El Nene’s moves!

I can show you tons of videos like this one where milonguero dancing can be quite complicated and way above the level of most of the dancers.


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Myth 5: “Milonguero is how tango was danced in the past”

A few months ago, a group of my students attended a milonga in a neighboring country. They danced but were dissatisfied with the level of dancing, particularly the treatment of women. They disliked being invited without cabeceo, partners insisting on dancing regardless of space, leading with hands, and, most importantly, executing flashy moves, despite being beyond the men’s skill level.

When they mentioned dancing milonguero, they were told, ‘Who dances like that today? That’s the old way of dancing.'”

Well, we do… as well as thousands of people worldwide…

Another example of this is the comment in the description on this video of Osvaldo and Coca:

“Tango as it once was…”!? Nothing can be further from the truth: tango is still being danced like this.

The fact that not many people know about milonguero events and schools, and that it’s not quite flashy and attractive to be pushed by Youtube algorithms, creates a wrong perception that today no one dances milonguero.

Up until about 15 years ago, almost all of the tango being taught was stage tango. It was taught by professional performers who used the time between shows to give classes. Then in 1990s there was a tango boom, and people in Argentina began to rediscover the milongas—but the opportunity to learn tango in the traditional way was almost gone. Social tango had gone to sleep, and for the previous 35 years tango had existed mostly in the form of exaggerated street performances and stage shows for tourists. The old ways of slowly learning how to dance were almost gone. There just weren’t enough people left who could carry on the traditions of practicing at home with family members, playing with tango on the street corners, and serving apprenticeships in neighborhood clubs. So a few people began to try something new. They decided to teach the social tango of the milongas by giving classes.

The new classes were based on responding to the cadences of the music, connecting closely with a partner, and moving smoothly around a crowded floor. Admittedly they only scratched the surface—but they did cover basic technique, and because they were so different from the dramatic figures and complex choreography being taught by the performers, the new teachers needed a way to make a clear distinction between their social tango, and the classes that already existed. The problem was that many of the performers already used the label “tango salon” to advertise their classes—so some of the new instructors decided to call their classes “tango milonguero“. They simply replaced the word “salon” with “milonguero“. “Tango salon” means tango for dancing socially in a dance salon (which is a milonga), and “tango milonguero” means the kind of tango danced in a milonga. Technically they are exactly the same thing. But since the stage teachers had already grabbed the “tango salon” label, the new teachers had to come up with a new name.

This is probably where the confusion began—but the important thing to remember is that “tango milonguero” is not some separate “style” of tango danced by the old milongueros.

Tango and Chaos in Buenos Aires

As I understand, from what I’ve read and from my experience today we have two types of dancing: the so-called “tango salon” which is a grounded version of show dancing, and tango milonguero – which is the actual development of the tango salon.


Tango milonguero goes beyond what your eyes can see. You must go deep and explore the nuances beneath the surface. By debunking common myths, you can truly understand what you do on the dance floor, and more importantly WHY and HOW you do it?

Milonguero is not a style of dancing – I strongly believe it’s the essence of tango. Tango lives at milongas, so it should be developed to fit milongas.

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